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Critiques aren't for what you think they're for.

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Stamp text (if it's too fast to read): "You didn't like my critique? I praised you. I said your work was good. I also gave you pointers on how to make it better. So what's with the attitude? If you didn't want my advice, you could've politely refused it...Or is because I didn't do enough ASS-KISSING? Critiques are NOT for ass-kissing. They're meant to HELP YOU IMPROVE."

TL;DR version that goes along with this, summed up by *akreon: [link]

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Incoming rant.
Frankly, this is a serious issue that needs to be addressed to anyone on this site, as it's an art community.

I recently saw a response from a pretty polite and calm comment, that was a small critique in a way...The OP's response was pretty much uncalled for, complete with overreaction and large amounts of butthurt. What was even more astonishing and made them even more ridiculous after looking at their ID...They were a parent.

:iconheaddeskplz: ...Even adults 10-20 years older than me behave like whiny children...And I thought the sassy youngsters were annoying enough.
AND I'M ONLY 20, with a month in a half to go before 21.

I hate saying this, but 80% of the members on this site are one of the following: under-age, trolls, art thieves, whiners, and ones who can't take criticism...Which is essential if you're going to be on here.

I'm dead serious. If you honestly thought critiques were meant to give you ass-pats and other sorts of flattery, then you're on the wrong site.

As I had to tell a very rash and immature writer before (edited to better fit this):
"Criticism is constructive feedback that helps you fix and improve your work. Not kiss your ass and tell you your writing is absolutely perfect. That's actually the last thing most [artists], at least the ones who are serious about their work, want to get. For me, I would love to have that type of criticism that [others] gave you. [...] What you want to hear and what you need to hear are different, you know. You have to listen to what you need to listen to, not what you want to listen to. In other words, you must accept both the positive and negative parts of criticism, not just the part that's giving you compliments."

This goes for anyone who is serious in their art and wants to better themselves. Criticism is essential for improvement. In other words, it's supposed to help you. It is not to kiss your ass and flatter you on how wonderful your work is.

I learned about criticism in high-school, while taking a Creative Writing course and I went through 2 art classes where we constantly critiqued each other's work. Hell, my Animation courses in college where we also critique each other's work. So I know how good critiques are done and I know the difference between trash-talking and giving a critique.

An example:
Last night, my Flash final got critiqued. This is how they did it.
They first complimented on how it was funny and the concept of it was working well, and that my film was a huge improvement from my midterm. Then they suggested that I fix up the opening scene and add a few things at the end to make it more clear where my character was. At the end, a few of my classmates also suggested a few things to fix to make it better. But overall, they definitely loved my work.

THAT is what a solid critique is and how you do it. I was very satisfied with the feedback I got and most importantly, I was glad that they liked it.
• They gave positive feedback and complimented on how much better it was than before.
• But they also gave the negative feedback by suggesting what could be improved on.

See how it's NOT talking bad about my work at all? They gave a critique to where they liked the work, but still gave ideas on how I could make it better.

And I don't have to use their suggestions if I don't want to. They're just there to help me if I want it.

The only way criticism is bad is when it's mainly mocking you with personal insults and/or swear words at your work. Example of some phrases used: "This sucks! You can't draw! You have horrible writing! Go to hell!"

If you're getting any of those or similar insults and they're passing it off as "criticism," you're most likely being trolled. The best thing to do is to ignore it...Or block it, if you're that annoyed. But don't respond to it. You're just falling straight into their trap that way.

But if someone gives you something like "This is great, but you might want to work on this..." or maybe the other way around, where they start with pointers before compliments, that's a serious critique.

Bottom line:

We're trying to help you improve.


And if you didn't want a critique, then just respectfully refuse it. If you don't like the critique, you don't have to accept it. But at least be courteous to the critic by saying "Thanks for your input, but I think it's okay," or something like that. Not throw a fit at them and call them names and label them as bullies or assholes or some other label, like a little spoiled child throwing a temper-tantrum. :|

That's why I get harsh with people like that. You sound like a spoiled child by throwing a fit. And I can't stand being bitched at for sticking my neck out for you and taking my time to give you a well-thought out critique. It's like posting your work up in an actual art gallery and then screaming your head off at anyone who gives you suggestions on it. "NO I WORKED HARD ON THIS, SO YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK SHIT TO ME! I DON'T DESERVE ANY OF IT!" You're practically asking me to lecture you. And with that attitude, you deserve being lectured at, no matter your age or how good you are. I will be downright harsh with you. :stare:

If you thought I was "mean" before, you should see me when I'm lecturing someone. Because if you act like a child, you're going to get treated and scolded like one. :|
I have a big mouth that way.

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CandyReaper-Malloko's avatar
I know, I'm tired of people getting upset over critiques!

I remember getting a critique from :iconellen-the-liepard: on my adopts and I thanked her for the critique. See what I did? I politely thanked her for the crit, unlike 90% of the butthurts here on dA.
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